Dumbphones do all that too.

Due to a lack of any reliable way of backing that up, I cannot convince anyone else using the opinions of a random on the internet. I was looking for a place I can show them with evidence, so I don’t look like a conspiracy theorist with a pinboard full of string and coloured paper.

They will if I don’t sound paranoid and can give rational answers backed up with real articles that aren’t conspiracy sites. Much of my family are teachers, everyone has at least one university degree, and is capable of rational thought and critical thinking. They just don’t see a reason to switch. I need to put forward a reason that is worth their time.

I have been using Telegram for… A really long time. A decade? Maybe not that long. But yeah, no reason to change from what works for me. You’re right about that.

Signal and Matrix(?) and the others all seem to be a recent development, and although I have downloaded a few, no one else has them or has heard of them, so their directories are empty as I have never found anyone who wants to connect that way. It means I don’t know how to use or teach older people how to use the software. I am trying to find a simple evidence-based way to encourage my family to change their minds, but it appears it will only make me look paranoid, so probably won’t try.

I, too, was immediately going to recommend correct horse. It is random and it works.

Air gap.

Otherwise, no, it is never secure.

Yep. I never got into the facebook thing (tried and failed to enjoy it enough to continue) and people get really sodding rude about the choice. Even suggesting using eMail or Telegram for communication leads to mild abuse at best. It is possible to live without Facebook, it just isn’t very easy, and people see it as a licence to be rude. Seeing as inside facebook they are rude also, I don’t feel I’m missing much, and it has led to a better life for me long term.

I’m confused about that too. Apparently it is in the contract that you aren’t allowed to take your device you legally purchased with you where you want, or to sell it after buying it? Or are they only allowed to sell their phone to people in the same country as themselves? Or something?

I guess the company is embarrassing in some way.

I prefer [insertconpanynamehere] but in this case name and shame almost seems more appropriate.

Fascinating.

I have no facebook account, but family members who insist on Whatsapp instead of something more secure. I use it to contact them. How is it associated with a facebook id? Did they generate one? Or am I piggybacked on them?

Just a whole lot of ignorant hype, I believe.

I’m finding it hard to see Brave as major.

That one looks dangerously, breakably thin. I am a clumsy human, and certain I would break it.

That looks exactly like what I have been wishing for fir a while now. Interesting!

My friends are already on telegram, I don’t have to force change. I can make any chat more secure from the start. I am not using massive government level secrets anyhow. I mean, security is nice, but my cat photos, bad code, homegrown mint tea, and plans for the beach this coming summer are hardly a top secret problem anyway, I’m not planning a murder, I just don’t want meta or facebook using them for advertising. Telegram is good enough.

It has nothing to do with other students though. The school itself is the one with the policy due to the laws surrounding the issue. The students are a whole different situation.

It is a perfectly notmal request. Schools get these requests all the time.

I had never heard of any of these things, and am amused by them being real. They sound like parodies of parodies.

And yet, you would think I would have seen or heard someone complain about theft before now. Everyone has one. This international location is the only place. Thus my assumption that it is some remote country. Doesn’t happen here in Australia.