• @Diabolo96@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    53 years ago

    A private vpn is an oxymoron. Since you tunnel all your data to some server.

    Google and privacy is an oxymoron.

    “Google private vpn” would be a mega oxymoron.

    • BlinkerFluid
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      23 years ago

      Not really. What if it’s your VPN? Mine allows me access to my home network, which is its primary focus, but it also obfuscates what my phone is doing online, and blocks trackers.

      (Adguard home and wireguard)

      It also lets me use my phone on 4chan… so there’s that.

      • @Diabolo96@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        13 years ago

        If you’re of the few people on earth to care enough and knows enough to set it’s own vpn, sure. but otherwise, NordVPN gonna still sponsor youtubers and lure people into a false sense of privacy.

        • Em Adespoton
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          13 years ago

          Strps to set up my own VPN:

          1. Navigate to my router’s configuration page
          2. Select Configure VPN server
          3. Click Generate Certificate button
          4. Download certificate
          5. Enable VPN networking on my device
          6. Import downloaded certificate

          It’s that simple. If you don’t have your own firewall, you can just deploy Tailscale on all devices you want to be able to communicate with each other, which uses Wireguard under the hood.

          • @rolaulten@startrek.website
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            13 years ago

            As someone who manages a tailscale network at my work…I just want to point out that tailscale is a tiny bit more complicated than just downloading and installing. Not much but…

            That said the ability to automate wireguard connections is wonderful and everyone should check it out.

          • Natanael
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            13 years ago

            I don’t have any evidence to the contrary, but in general it’s suspicious when a company markets features like that so hard when there’s no reliable way an outsider can verify that the claim is accurate (still)

            • @Daisyifyoudo@lemmy.world
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              13 years ago

              I remember this, and a quick google corroborates, that they’ve had 3 independent 3rd party audits and have been verified each time as not keeping activity logs. I think they’re one of the good ones.

    • @Zerush@lemmy.ml
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      3 years ago

      It’s an oximoron in every company which make money with surveillance advertisings. Google undoubtedly has apps and services with a very high quality and often without real competition or alternative, but this has a very high cost and if the main income, apart from some paid services, is based on selling user data to advertising companies, it is logical and almost inevitable that it becomes a data moloch that uses any dirty trick to obtain these. It is an axiom: power corrupts

      Mozilla now regrets having signed with Google as a sponsor and is now trying to get out of this contract, especially since Google plans to introduce this WEI DRM, but Alphabet is not doing this the easy way and Mozilla depends a lot on this money to maintain its infrastructure. We will see what comes of this, but it is really urgent that Mozilla changes its business model, it would be very desirable and necessary.

      Moral: If you want to maintain your independence and freedom, do not accept outside investors

    • @Slotos@feddit.nl
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      13 years ago

      “Private” in “virtual private network” means “routed by different rules”. It’s the same “private” that’s in “private Internet Protocol addresses”.

      It was never about personal privacy.

    • @Zerush@lemmy.ml
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      There are way worst VPNs out there, they are not only a scam and spyware, like Google- or Opera"VPNs", they also dangerous. eg Hola VPN 🥶 Apart of Windscribe, Proton and maybe Calyx, there isn’t any trustworth free VPN out there, and all free, even if they are trustworth are limited, in use of monthly amount of data (10 Gb in Windscribe), or/and in the amount of servers. If a free VPN offers a lot of servers AND unlimited amount of data, by definition is a scam or worse. Servers cost money and free VPN only can offer free dedicated public servers and there a not so much, only a few in some countries.

    • aeternum
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      13 years ago

      I’m surprised meta don’t create a vpn product.

      But yeah, No way either of them would ever be my vpn.

  • @spaghettiwestern@sh.itjust.works
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    Google’s unbelievably aggressive BS is the just about the only reason I run a VPN. Despite taking extraordinary steps to block them, Google still manages to regularly shove their BS into my life.

    Google removed “Don’t Be Evil” from their mission statement for a reason.

  • @Aceticon@lemmy.world
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    13 years ago

    That would be like hiring professional bank robbers with a long string of hits to provide security for a bank.

    • @SeabassDan@lemmy.world
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      13 years ago

      Not trusting big Goog at all here, but some of the best hackers have been known to get hired by big corporations or the government, seeing as how they’re the best at what to look for.

      • @Tangent5280@lemmy.world
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        13 years ago

        Bruh, you have a cybersec violation on your rep sheet and you couldn’t get a job sweeping gravel off a cybersec company’s parking lot.

        “Cool cyber hacker gets hired by glowie boys” happens only in movies. The risk just isn’t worth it. In the very rare cases where the skill is worth the risk, which it never is, rest assured there is a handler team authorised to break both hands, the second the hacker goes off script.

      • @Aceticon@lemmy.world
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        13 years ago

        In this situation Google controls the whole setup and is not under any oversight from the customers (i.e. those using the VPN).

        In that example of yours they would be a still active hacker whose prime source of income is hacking and who makes way more money from hacking than from said gigs for the “big corporations or the government” and who isn’t at all being directly whatched by their employers to make sure they don’t abuse the situation.

        Would you give a know active black hat a gig doing penetration testing, which they can do from their own place using whatever they want with no oversight and were the possible profit they can make selling what they find in your systems vastly outweighs what you’re paying them?

    • Prethoryn Overmind
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      13 years ago

      Aren’t some of the more profitable and secure services created by those trained to break security?

      • @Aceticon@lemmy.world
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        13 years ago

        Well, Google continues to have the profit motivation of selling people’s personal data, whilst the way black hats turn into white hats is that they can make more money (or at least safer) by helping to improve security rather than break it.

        You don’t really hire an active black hat to do penetration testing into your system when they can make way more money selling what they’ll find in your system than what you’re paying them for said penetration testing.

        The problem is that Google’s core business is still built-around using (and selling, though indirectly) people’s private data.