DKIM, DMARC, SPF, rDNS/PTR, EHLO… all correct and verified in the email “original source,” BY GOOGLE. Still goes to SPAM folder because **** you, apparently. I hate Google.
DKIM, DMARC, SPF, rDNS/PTR, EHLO… all correct and verified in the email “original source,” BY GOOGLE. Still goes to SPAM folder because **** you, apparently. I hate Google.
Honestly, it’s way past time to phase out email
What alternative do you propose that is not based on some proprietary solution?
I can’t speak for @ShutUpWesley@piefed.zip, but I boycott both Google and Microsoft. This means 95+% of prospective people, corps, and gov agencies I would exchange email with are not getting email from me. They are also not getting an email address out of me.
I have been done with email for nearly a decade now, mostly. So, to answer your question, I use fax and snail mail. Not joking. I feel liberated and don’t give a shit about postage or inconvenience. There is still that exceptional 5% or so who I will exchange email with, which does not have GAFAM in the loop.
(edit) should add that I give friends and family an XMPP address. Google bounced from XMPP a decade or so ago and AFAIK Microsoft has no XMPP service. So it’s mostly snail mail and fax for govs and corps. XMPP for people.
Any friends or family who resist XMPP are mostly stuffed. They can either proxy through a mutual friend or call me if they are local.
I respect that. Reminds me of Donald Knuth, who stopped using email in 1990: " I have been a happy man ever since January 1, 1990, when I no longer had an email address"
https://www-cs-faculty.stanford.edu/~knuth/email.html
Interesting to see his take on “e-mail” vs “email”. I bet he changes his tune on “email” vs “mail” – where gen-z has decided that it’s okay to save keystrokes by dropping the “e” because no one uses snail mail anymore. Indeed I am always disguested when someone says “send a mail”. I have to ask for clarification and they always confirm that mean email.
Maybe this is more common when English is not your native language; e.g. in Germany, “mail” is “Brief”, and “email” is just “E-Mail” or more short “mail”, because no one says “elektronischer Brief”.
So that might just be the origin of this language butchering you observed; as “email” means something different in various languages, lots of people who don’t speak English as their first language might have chosen to use “mail” for electronic mail. That is just speculation of course.
Something new, that doesn’t have the anachronism of a nearly 50 year old protocol.
Don’t get me wrong, I don’t think there is currently a good replacement, but I think one should be developed.
Its strange you think that I’m siding with a proprietary solution, when email is effectively controlled by major tech companies, which is one of its biggest flaws.
That is not the case. We both can setup a mail server and email each other without any issues.
Hell to the no.
This is a weird take. Care to expand on why you dislike it?
I mean this meme does a good job of explaining my biggest grievance, despite being a theoretically open protocol, it’s been lassoed into a nearly closed network controlled by big tech.
Beyond that, email(SMTP) is nearly 50 years old, and it has anachronistism that show
Outside of corporate life, email in the modern world is basically just a tool for marketing and identity verification, and that sucks, because I remember when it was more than that.
I appreciate your commitment to the bit, but, this is still a shit take. Shut Up Wesley!
Might I ask why you think it’s a shit take? I’m genuinely surprised so many people seem to think email needs to be defended