PhilipTheBucket

More like, neighbour invites everybody to their pool, but if you go, you have to sign a legal agreement that you invite everybody to your whole house.

Incorrect. No one gets access to the rest of your company’s source code. It’s just that, since they gave you a ton of wonderful stuff for free, you have to do likewise if you’re going to build on their stuff. If you don’t want that, then go find some other swimming pool so to speak (which it sounds like you’ve done).

It boggles my mind how people think this is unintended. “My company tried to build on GPL3 software, but IDK if the authors realized this, but we’re not allowed to do that unless we share our contributions back in turn! What an error! As soon as they find out, they’ll surely change the licensing to one that is more amenable to what we want to do in terms of reselling their source code to people without complying on our end with the GPL!”

I can pretty much guarantee you, this will not be a surprise to the people who licensed their code GPL. We have been having this conversation for decades. Your input as to whether it’s “beneficial” to them to restrict you from doing what they don’t want you to do is noted.

“How dare my neighbor put a fence around his pool! I tell you, ever since he did that, my kids can’t swim there and we’ve had to figure out something else to do.”

She was pretty emotional at times. She only really smiled the once. You can see that it fucked her up a little bit, she’s just got enough fire not to let it bother her on camera and mostly get on with what she feels like needs to be said. That is my read of it at least, from my uninformed perspective.

Way ahead of you lol

The US are trying it

No they fucking aren’t

There have been US attempts to do things in the Mideast that at least partially were genuine attempts to do good things. Usually they don’t turn out as anything good, because of massive structural issues both in the US armed forces and in the Mideast, so you could make the argument that we just shouldn’t do anything ever. Which it seems like you’re doing.

Our current type of involvement in the Israel / Palestine conflict is nothing resembling a benevolent attempt.

IDK why you assumed by “a separate military force” you assumed I meant US forces. I sort of agree with you that US military intervention would be unlikely to accomplish anything good (both because of the history and the low trust level they would receive, and because of the structural issues inherent in their priorities and behavior that have led to that low trust level).

IDK what form some kind of outside intervention could realistically take (I mean, aside from Iran deciding to blow up all Israel’s cities and everyone gets to see what happens next, that’s realistic on some level), but I wasn’t saying US.

Honestly, it’s not a bad point.

“Why should the Arabs make peace? If I was an Arab leader I would never make terms with Israel. That is natural: we have taken their country. Sure God promised it to us, but what does that matter to them? Our God is not theirs.” -David Ben-Gurion

It needs to be some separate military force coming in from outside and making “both sides” behave. Primarily, the “both sides” of the Israelis since they’re doing the overwhelming majority of the killing. And then as if by magic I think you would see a lot more peaceful situation.

Enacting a Palestinian state with Israelis running around all over it taking farms or killing kids whenever they feel like won’t do a damn thing. It would be good for them to have representation on the world stage, that would come with recognition and would cast what the Israelis are doing in a somewhat different light, but just the state alone is not the pressing problem.

I’m not super familiar with it, but just knowing the little bit that I know about it, this is my guess:

• The person who paid for the order flow sees a limit order for max price $45 or whatever.
• The user’s data is delayed by 15 minutes, so they see the current price as $46.
• The person who paid for order flow looks at the current price (which the user can’t see, since their data is 15 minutes delayed).
• If the current price is $43, they fill the order at $44 and the user feels like they came out ahead and is motivated to keep doing this
• If the current price is $45, they fill the order at $45, whatever
• If the current price is $47, they don’t fill the order

… and so on. I would bet it’s decently more complicated than that, but bottom line, there’s a reason these guys are paying all this money for order flows. It’s not because they’re not making money on them, and usually the procedure is to extract the money from the most-poorly-informed person involved (which in this case is the end user by a big margin).

All orders cost money. If they’re not charging you $5 per trade or whatever, then they’re taking a lot more than that by selling your “order flow” to someone who’s shaving more than that off it by creatively timing when the trades actually are going through and at what exact price.

Vanguard and Fidelity are both good. You can just use the web site, probably you can even just call them up and make requests over the phone. Vanguard is a little bit more for normal person investing (mostly index funds and no weird shit), Fidelity offers crypto and all the nonsense too if you want that, but they’re both pretty respectable.

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Everyone knows throwing a fit when people ask the wrong questions and storming off the stage is a demonstration of unassailable right-being 🙂

Were you under the impression I thought I was the first person to come up with these ideas or questions? In history? No, the point is that you don’t want to answer them, not that they were somehow untouched by scholarship.

I’m happy to make the same offer for you, you can try to expose the flaws in my thinking by trying to ask questions I really don’t want to admit the answers to or am just unaware of.

But like I say, it’s clear that you prefer soapboxing to that sort of interactive discussion (even the Playskool version of it with one word answers). I wonder why…

It’s okay if you don’t know! I think you do, though, at least most of these answers you are probably aware of. I’ll make them simpler so there’s no time needed to put together a little essay or anything (which is probably better anyway, since it’ll be less subjective). One or two word answers.

• What did Stalin have done to most of the KPD members who fled Hitler to the Soviet Union?
• Which country currently embodies what you’d like to see, as the successful Communist model to emulate?
• Which direction did people generally flee across the Berlin wall?
• How would you characterize China’s modern government, in one or two words?

I know, I know, you don’t want to participate. It’s easier just to talk down to me and soapbox, and from that format you can really easily refuse to analyze things that you don’t want to analyze that undo your mental models if you do analyze them. But there’s no reason you would be unwilling just to admit the answers, since your model is super-correct and I’m the wrong one.

Up to you

I’m not a debate pervert.

I mean it definitely sounds like you are lol

The fact that you use Trump and Stalin in the same sentence shows profound ignorance on your part.

They both aspire to throw their domestic enemies into a network of shadowy prison camps or kill them outright, they both claim the establishment opposition needs to be disposed of, they both claim that censorship is necessary because some ideas are wrong and the leader needs to be in control so he can keep the wrong ideas away. There are some important differences, too, but certainly they belong in the same sentence. Trump’s just a lot less effective, is actually the main difference I see.

There is no point attempting to have a discussion with people who have strong opinions on subjects they have no understanding of.

Sounds good! Let me check your qualifications, that’s a really good point, I did have a sense that there was no point to having this conversation with you, and this sort of gets to the heart of why lol.

• What did Stalin have done to most of the KPD members who fled Hitler to the Soviet Union?
• Why did the USSR ultimately collapse? What should be done differently to raise up the next massive wonderful communist state? Or nothing, they did everything fine?
• Which direction did people generally flee across the Berlin wall? Why?
• How would you characterize China’s modern government, in one or two words? Marxist, communist, gangster-capitalist, what?

Okay, this is clearly going to be a waste of time. Tell you what: You’re clearly never going to admit that you’re wrong about this, and obviously I can’t force you. It seems like you’re actually sort of enjoying how easy it is just to keep typing “freedom is an illusion anyway and that’s why I had all the opposition shot and that makes perfect sense” and similar things and no one can stop you.

Let’s do this: Tell me a format within which we can have this conversation, and get some kind of feedback or judgement about who it is that’s able to prove their case. If you want to propose a framing of some sort, and go within that, I’m happy to talk about it with you. If not, I think it’s just going to be you insisting that Stalin-style/Trump-style governance is justified until I get bored or frustrated and abandon the conversation.

The difference is that communists accept the need for censorship and are open about why some ideas need to be suppressed.

Because some ideas are so destructive to your whole model that they have to be suppressed, because these models in their practical application are often sort of un-defendable, and so the only option is to have secret police running around shooting dissidents.

It doesn’t mean that liberal democracies don’t fall into the exact same pattern, to some extent large or small. It is in the nature of human power struggle. It’s not innate to any particular political system (or it is innate to all of them because they’re all made of people). The difference is that we don’t celebrate it or make excuses for it. We publish books about what a lie the government is telling, we have a constant struggle between the forces of freedom in the streets and the government trying to stamp it out. Sometimes different factions get the upper hand, or it switches.

The difference, as you brilliantly demonstrated here, is that some of the most thickheaded of communist supporters get themselves turned around sufficiently that they start supporting the government trying to stamp it out. Most sensible people, when the government tells them that some ideas need to be suppressed, and they need to imprison or shoot anyone who’s opposing their power, can figure out that’s a bad thing. You apparently cannot.

Something like Lemmy could form a pretty good foundation. Onion routing already has created a “parallel internet” that depends 0% on DNS, and Lemmy instances would federate today (with whitelisted federation) via /etc/hosts with no DNS involved. It wouldn’t work well, it would have problems, but if someone actually tried to make it work moderately well, the whole model of “admins running servers which it’s your problem to get connected to, and then they know how to federate to each other because all the admins talk with each other” could work itself around over time into something that actually had some pretty strong robustness to it.

There are other attempts (Holepunch, Freenet, all that jazz), but actually Tor and Fedi things probably have the best claims to being able to turn into something realistic that didn’t need DNS, over time. You just couldn’t talk to it until you set your machine up to be able to get the initial connection going, but that’s not fatal, the whole internet used to be a lot like that way back when.

Dude you’re on the instance where it is forbidden in worldnews to say “Fuck (a particular country which will remain nameless)”.

Literally the only one. You can say “Fuck the United States” or “Fuck Israel” everywhere on Lemmy, or near enough, which of course is as it should be. But if I start stepping on the wrong massive state actors’ toes from one particular instance…

It’s incredibly easy to do, too. All you have to do is cast across the length and breadth of every single thing any particular leftist person has ever done, pick the one that can be interpreted the worst, and spin it up into the entirety of their being.

Putin killed a million Russian soldiers and God knows how many Ukrainians, bombed a bunch of cities on purpose, and all the rest of it? Well… it’s complicated. Let’s make sure we look at the whole picture. Here, I’ve got a pamphlet.

AOC voted against one doomed amendment from Marjorie Taylor Greene which was (to all appearances) actually accidentally a good idea because it was defunding Israel, and then had a pretty unconvincing explanation as to why? Literal genocider. Fuck her forever, she’s the enemy now and nothing else matters.