Ah yes they sure are defending themselves with utmost aggression. Fucking hell.

3d old account. posts single comment. Comment deals with spain banning palantir. Comment criticizes spain. hmmm.

I agree with you totally

I agree for the early ussr. Later starting from khruschev and especially brezhnev i think the leadership got weak and larded. If not for them it never had to fall. Also i dont cede any such ground. Better then capitalists? They were the firsr sucessful leftist revolutionaries. I totally respect them, and was many times amazed by their history. I think its uniquely priviledged position to criticize the liberator for his missteps.

my personal favorite is Einsteins quote about his view of lenin: “I honor Lenin as a man who completely sacrificed himself and devoted all his energy to the realization of social justice. I do not consider his methods practical, but one thing is certain: men of his type are the guardians and restorers of the conscience of humanity.”

Yes it clearly did. When you respond to something, and just ignore the point, that kidna defeats the purpose of the response. What is this “your crowd”? I dont know what that is, lets define what you mean by that.

Ok honestly didnt expect you read marx, it typically serves as filter, and from your response i assumed it impossible. Are you much into econ? Bcs some parts of capital arent too simple. Do you like structuralism?

Regarding the point about russia. Well the point about what happens could be relevant. Thats why your claim about ussr was so derailed. Who said ussr? There are many communists whod argue for it, and many whod argue for some other form. Its exactly a strawman to pick a battle, which was nowhere in the original claim. Proximity from previous context doesnt change this, he said communists, you assumed soviets.

What a great summing up of an entire school of thought. Im sure you read most of marxist/communist literature. Damn Ill be surprised if you even opened capital to begin with.

also notice how you had to completely derail his point to USSR for a strawman. He just claimed what communists want. You didnt adress that bcause he clearly was right there

Exaclty thats why we condemn Iran for defending itself, and for being attacked. Also of course the actions of Israel are only problematic, we have to watch the genocide from afar, then decide if it was just. Ah the shamelessness. Meanwhile lets host as many of their war criminals as possible.

If only they actually meant that. Seems they forgot that they use nothing but superlatives when it comes to crimes they now politicially benefit from, like holocaust. Should I provide quotes? But yes Afd makes the same argument for holocaust, go figure.

He did find out, having nukes was the sigle most peaceful and benevolent policy to have. saved entire north from another extermination campain like in the 50s

Hey there heres a basic reading list—time to stop embarrassing yourself in the comments:

The Communist Manifesto by Karl Marx & Friedrich Engels

Capital (Volume 1) by Karl Marx

State and Revolution by V.I. Lenin

Reform or Revolution by Rosa Luxemburg

Wretched of the Earth by Frantz Fanon

Imperialism, the Highest Stage of Capitalism by V.I. Lenin

No excuses! You’ll thank me later.

I dont see this as black and white at all. What alternative is there to un? Now dont get me wrong, the real role of un and the one it ought to have have little in common, but still I wouldnt argue for its end, now that it could help against israel, in whatever small way it can. Also idk why should it become better for states outside of global north, I dont see any indication.

the overthrow in syria in my view didnt install a democratic or popular socialist, or in fact a democratic popular leader per say. President is a former islamist militia commander. Meanwhile while the state deals with secrarian violence between alawites christians kurds druze, israel has expanded settlements in golan and does now regular strikes even further into syrian territory. framing potential iran or syria as socialist is just marketing, it shows no connection to either of the situations there. thats why i asked. If this is the sort of freedom you are “neutral” on then we disagree. in syria the popularity cannot even be argued on the same grounds because it wasnt toppled through uprising.

in iran the protests were followed by orders larger pro gvmt anti foreign influence ones. I can give source its on craddle for example. Also notice how the revolution against shah is different, point me to significant backing of it by foreign power. That was grassroots, this one has mossad and cia all over it

No it just seems to me that you dont support the syrian govenment. Did you even support the previous overthrow?

Well the governmemt there war overthrown with israeli and us support. So the syrian people are finally free no? I dont know, it doesnt seem socialist or even better for that matter to me.

Ah sorry, i was asking whats wrong with syrian socialism.

So not yet?

Tell me when you address one of my points.

Yes you said that foreign infiltration brought people like lenin. Thats how this began, when you tried to use this to not see an issue with us and mossad infiltration.

lol, you compared mossad to lenin, bruv what position you have to say whats a weird claim

Ok this isnt a serious debate, ive explained nemerous times the thing you ‘quoted’ also this isnt a quote, this is not even a phrase