The problem is not the account, but the mandatory phone number verification
Yes, it is. At least from the perspective of normal users.
The reason for WhatsApp (or Telegram or iMessage) becoming as big as it is was the convenience (later the network effect, of course, too) of just entering your phone number and then it just works™. No server selection, no password to remember, totally hassle free—that is the argument I get to hear very often.
And honestly, I have no idea, how we could provide a similar conveniance that is fool proof and secure and private.
I was referring to the “no account creation required” and given how other online services seem to be doing fine with accounts I don’t think it is as big of a hurdle as you make it seem.
Of course automatic discovery of accounts based on phone numbers is a different topic, but there are also plenty of people who hate that feature (Telegram has a special feature to not allow that even).
Tell people to just element.io, by default you don’t need to select any server, it uses matrix.org by default.
That is your only problem? (password requirement can’t be a problem…)
When a friend wants to talk to me, I just reply their MSM (simple phone text message) to get element.io and add me with my username, and done, they are in already.
The problem is not the account, but the mandatory phone number verification.
XMPP with the Android Conversations or BlabberIM client works pretty well as an alternative and uses the same high quality encryption as Signal.
Yes, it is. At least from the perspective of normal users.
The reason for WhatsApp (or Telegram or iMessage) becoming as big as it is was the convenience (later the network effect, of course, too) of just entering your phone number and then it just works™. No server selection, no password to remember, totally hassle free—that is the argument I get to hear very often.
And honestly, I have no idea, how we could provide a similar conveniance that is fool proof and secure and private.
I was referring to the “no account creation required” and given how other online services seem to be doing fine with accounts I don’t think it is as big of a hurdle as you make it seem.
Of course automatic discovery of accounts based on phone numbers is a different topic, but there are also plenty of people who hate that feature (Telegram has a special feature to not allow that even).
Tell people to just element.io, by default you don’t need to select any server, it uses matrix.org by default.
That is your only problem? (password requirement can’t be a problem…)
When a friend wants to talk to me, I just reply their MSM (simple phone text message) to get element.io and add me with my username, and done, they are in already.