Women have multiple ways to avoid pregnancy. Men have multiple ways to avoid pregnancy. People who are educated about their options exercise those options like all the time, which is why so many of us don’t have kids at all. Myself very much included. Thats why birth rates are declining so drastically.
I mean, its kinda a boomer take. But what they are saying is that a lot of people reach a certain point in life where they change their minds and decide to have kids even though they didnt want them or thought they werent ready yet. The person who says “ugh, no, there is no way I would ever have kids” and then 3 years later rolls over in bed with their partner and says “yaknow… what if…?”
Which, really this shouldn’t be surprising. As a biological organism, essentially all your drives are oriented around survival and reproduction.
Of course, declining birth rates around the world push back against this theory… But with a wider view, we expect evolution to take its course, and for traits that encourage greater reproduction to be selected for.
Men and women in developed countries have had multiple ways to avoid pregnancy for decades, but it’s only recently that birth rates have fallen below replacement in most of those countries. So there’s something missing from your story, at least.
Yeah, so this post is POV North American per title, the problem of selfish boomers is one that afaik only developed countries even have, so while you are correct, its entirely irrelevant to the conversation at hand, which is why I didn’t say anything about it.
On re-read I think I may have misread what you wrote but ima leave this up anyway.
People used to have like… hopes that they could support their kids… we haven’t had that for a while now so birth rates are falling faster than they would otherwise.
The post title is “point of view: you are a 4th generation North American” thus it’s specifically about North Americans to begin with.
Baby boomers are a thing that really only exist (at least to my knowledge) in developed/western nations, due to them being a post-war cohort. Basically countries involved in WW2, after the war killed off millions of young men, saw a surge in births to recover population. Baby boomers. Countries not involved in the war didn’t have the baby boom the way western countries did, because why would they? There was no pressure to restore their population numbers.
Since the meme is about baby boomers, specifically, being selfish, which is inherently a developed-country problem, as well as specifically about being a north American, people in developing countries having less access to family planning is entirely irrelevant, even if it is true.
That helps. I think you misunderstood - what I was trying to say was something quite similar: the person I replied to (who I think wasn’t you) was talking about access to family planning, and I was saying this has been available in developed countries for a long time. So although it did lead to a decrease in birth rate decades ago, it’s only recently that we see sub-replacement rates, so that latter effect specifically is likely not to do with access to family planning.
Women have multiple ways to avoid pregnancy. Men have multiple ways to avoid pregnancy. People who are educated about their options exercise those options like all the time, which is why so many of us don’t have kids at all. Myself very much included. Thats why birth rates are declining so drastically.
Unless you are saying women can’t use birth control or get abortions for some reason…? Or abstain entirely as young people seem to be doing in surprisingly large numbers?
“Kids have a way of happening” is basically saying other people don’t or shouldn’t have bodily autonomy… kinda fucked up.
I mean, its kinda a boomer take. But what they are saying is that a lot of people reach a certain point in life where they change their minds and decide to have kids even though they didnt want them or thought they werent ready yet. The person who says “ugh, no, there is no way I would ever have kids” and then 3 years later rolls over in bed with their partner and says “yaknow… what if…?”
Which, really this shouldn’t be surprising. As a biological organism, essentially all your drives are oriented around survival and reproduction.
Of course, declining birth rates around the world push back against this theory… But with a wider view, we expect evolution to take its course, and for traits that encourage greater reproduction to be selected for.
Men and women in developed countries have had multiple ways to avoid pregnancy for decades, but it’s only recently that birth rates have fallen below replacement in most of those countries. So there’s something missing from your story, at least.
Yeah, so this post is POV North American per title, the problem of selfish boomers is one that afaik only developed countries even have, so while you are correct, its entirely irrelevant to the conversation at hand, which is why I didn’t say anything about it.
I don’t understand this, sorry
On re-read I think I may have misread what you wrote but ima leave this up anyway.
People used to have like… hopes that they could support their kids… we haven’t had that for a while now so birth rates are falling faster than they would otherwise.
The post title is “point of view: you are a 4th generation North American” thus it’s specifically about North Americans to begin with.
Baby boomers are a thing that really only exist (at least to my knowledge) in developed/western nations, due to them being a post-war cohort. Basically countries involved in WW2, after the war killed off millions of young men, saw a surge in births to recover population. Baby boomers. Countries not involved in the war didn’t have the baby boom the way western countries did, because why would they? There was no pressure to restore their population numbers.
Since the meme is about baby boomers, specifically, being selfish, which is inherently a developed-country problem, as well as specifically about being a north American, people in developing countries having less access to family planning is entirely irrelevant, even if it is true.
Hope that helps :) if not I can try again.
That helps. I think you misunderstood - what I was trying to say was something quite similar: the person I replied to (who I think wasn’t you) was talking about access to family planning, and I was saying this has been available in developed countries for a long time. So although it did lead to a decrease in birth rate decades ago, it’s only recently that we see sub-replacement rates, so that latter effect specifically is likely not to do with access to family planning.
Hope that also helps, haha!