In an unexpected mask off “secure” email and VPN provider Proton took the stance of siding with the fascist MAGA Reps. Proton’s services are no option for me and many others any longer. Let’s collect and discuss alternatives (E2E encrypted email and VPN) here 🔐👇

Always try to provide:

-Server location (jurisdiction)

-Governance

-Integrity/trustworthiness/transparency

-User experience/ease of use (grade 1 to 10, lets take Proton as a benchmark with an 8)

-Pricing and links

If you know alternative setups, feel free to share, too.

#ProtonExodus

Background: https://lemmy.ca/comment/13913116

Edit:typo

        • ZeroOne
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          Not a good reason, techlore fanboy The website is pretty decent & clean & they have a better licencing

          You drank the TechLore kool-aid Mistef

          • The website is pretty decent & clean

            what the fuck? Google has a clean website, doesn’t mean I should be using it. The usefulness of the information is what matters, and privacytools ranking ads as “best picks” sure as hell isn’t informative

            better licencing

            same as above. Doesn’t matter if they have a better license when everything else is a scam

              • @isolatedscotch@discuss.tchncs.de
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                What ads & what scam ? Disroot ? Picocrypt ?

                From https://www.privacytools.io/donate

                The only sponsorship of PrivacyTools.io so far is the service “Redact.dev” click here to view the example. To avoid confusion, these entries will be clearly marked as a sponsored entry.

                I will make this very clear: No tool or service will be added here just because an affiliate program is offered.

                Clearly false when the VPN page lists NordVPN as the best pick, followed by Surfshark and an and for Incogni at the bottom of the page.

                PG’s Jonah Aragon steal PT’s creator’s funds & his subreddit & censors anyone who mentions it

                🌟lies🌟

                can you stop linking that one video which uses “trust me bro” and the privacytools website itself as sources and link some actual verifiable stuff?

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      Boy I guess PT is not allowed to make money to fund their website It’s way better than leaching from PT & TechLore fans

    • tech bro recommendations like Brave browser

      I’m never gonna recommend librewolf/mullvad browser/whatever is popular these days to a coworker, even if I daily drive them. Do you know what I did suggest to them, and they actually switched to it from chrome? Brave.

      It’s not the best, it’s not the most powerful, but being able to say “it’s chrome but without ads” is a major selling point, especially with non tech savy people who don’t want their cookies cleared on every restart

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        Nowadays I would recommend Zen Browser + uBO over Brave which has a nice user-friendly UI and supposedly disables telemetry. Before Zen Browser, disabling the crap Brave comes with takes a similar amount of effort as tweaking Librewolf’s aggressive privacy settings, but one of them is actually privacy focused and the other is run by a shady ad crypto company with a shady news feed that keeps pushing Fox News and a homophobic CEO. For mobile there’s Cromite.