Rick and Morty
Definitely this! I lost my love of the show after the 4th season due to the fans.
Yeah, I kinda fell off around then as well. I started watching sometime around the end of season 2 airing, and I remember how fun and exciting it was. I’m not sure the show was meant to go on as long as it did. I think that’s a big problem with things getting popular too, is this desire to keep things going past their expiration date.
Credit where it’s due, Netflix does the limited series thing and I like that. Let’s state from the beginning: this is it. Now, Netflix also just cancels shows it shouldn’t, and that’s massively disappointing, so debit where it’s due too (that’s an opposite of credit but obviously not the right one but I can’t think of the word and I gotta wrap this thing up).
I think in this case the word is deficit not debit
Thanks that’s definitely the word. Just had bankcards in my head for some reason, and time was of the essence.
What happened? I only lightly watched the show.
They turned into a pickle, funniest shit I ever seen.
That’s when I stopped watching. It was so stupid that it just turned me off.
The joke was that there was no joke, Rick is just being an asshole and disappointing everyone around him. But between that and the shezuan sauce incident, I realized the fandom has literally zero media literacy, they’re just clapping at shapes and colors.
A lot of folks have watched the show and come to the conclusion that it’s an endorsement of their lifestyles which they view as similar to Rick at the start of the series, plus the extremely toxic behavior that comes along with the impression that you’re better than everyone and your intelligence justifies any behavior you are criticized for
Are you kidding? I’m totally Jerry.
Thanks. Sort of like MAGA light.
Star Wars. It’s not perfect, and sometimes bad, but avoiding the fanbase gives me peace.
No one hates star wars / Trek like star wars / Trek fans.
It’s not easy, but you can like them both and still dislike the fans.
I find it extremely easy to like both and dislike the fans!
It’s the rule of 3! For both Star Wars / Trek, I only like 3 movies / series!
Which ones? [Hehe…]
I’m old school. For SW it’s the OG trilogy all the way. For Trek it’s TOS, TNG, and DS9!
I actually liked the most recent star wars movie. there I said it.
The Mandalorian and Grogu or Rise of Skywalker?
The fucks a grogu
Baby Yoda: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grogu
Honestly, linux for me (yes I know where I am). Love the software and options, but holy shit is the fanbase incredibly opinionated and full of condescension about it. Also they don’t know how to shut the fuck up about it, and constantly bring it up where it doesn’t belong. Like its a personality trait to them or something.
For many, it is. Autism, hyperfixation, and passion are needed to do something like create an OS from scratch, pick and choose any of the 3 to then use it in an incomplete state.
Id argue we’re finally at the point where you actually dont need any of those, just a willingness to learn and adapt
it’s a tool for a job for me.
to them, it’s a religion.
lemmy.world/c/formula1 is small enough that we occasionally acknowledge a race happened.
Rick and Morty.
Fallout.
Star Wars.
Magic (except my friends).
Absolutely every single anime I ever watched.
Terraria has a unusually thirsty fanbase that never fails to disgust me.
Did I mention Fallout?
Hot Take: Fallout the show is mid. Every season the actors try to save the script, but it dies anyway.
I think I forgot to mention Fallout.
Oh right, I had totally forgotten! I was wondering when 4 or 76 got so popular but the show fellout recently! That explains it pretty well lol.
Silo better
Care to elaborate on the Terraria fanbase? I never got into the game, always liked starbound more, but I could not get from them anything besides condescension regarding any other 2d-survival-whatchamacall-this-genre games. It’s terraria or nothing else.
There is absolutely no problem with Terraria itself. It’s an amazing game and my critique wasn’t directed at the fandom as a whole but at the subreddit. It was a dwelling place for furry porn artists who can’t fathom the concept of a NSFW tag. Also the mods rolled with it. So when I opened the app there was a great chance of the top of my feed being shitty porn drawings. Which I do not enjoy.
I also just checked and yeah. It seems like it got worse.
Warhammer/Warhammer 40k
Love the games an the lore but I wouldn’t touch the fandom with a 10 foot pole. Some of the absolute worst degenerates in there…
My experience is 50/50. Half the fandom are smart enough to see the lore is mostly satire meant to be silly exaggeration, the other half has a power fantasy from different, but overlapping backgrounds (misogynist, racist, homophobic, etc).
Skoolies for me. A few years ago I bought a used school bus and started converting it into a motorhome. I made an account at the main forum (skoolie.net) because there were people there that actually knew useful stuff, primarily about metalworking (which I’d never done before) and the mechanical aspects of bus ownership (which I still don’t know shit about).
Surprisingly (or maybe not) skooliers heavily tend towards being right-wing, trump-loving, gun-toting, immigrant-hating wankers. There are exceptions but they always end up being driven away. The thought of going to one of the annual skoolie gatherings is nightmare fuel for me.
skooliers heavily tend towards being right-wing, trump-loving, gun-toting, immigrant-hating wankers.
Years ago my dad bought an old school bus because he wanted to convert it into a motor home with private bathroom and a garage in the back for his motorcycle for trips to the Sturgis Motorcycle Rally.
Apart from the fact that he never got around to doing any work on the bus and eventually gave up and unloaded it on someone, your description would have been completely accurate.
Your dad did the right thing. I got mine 95% done at the cost of tens of thousands of dollars and arthritis basically everywhere, just for the honor of paying $100 a month to park it at a U-haul lot. I know how to weld and rivet now, just as useless as the bus.
all the people i have known in metalwork or maker spacers were all far-left and kept injecting their politics and insecurity about being ‘authentic’ and ‘cool’ into everything. it’s a major turn off.
i have no idea how heating up pieces of metal to merge them together or other stuff like that has anything to do with politics, but people can’t help themselves. Also these spaces in my experience… were all well-off white people desperately trying to ‘signal’ they were not like ‘white people’.
anyways, i take those kinda classes and hobby things at adult education centers and libraries and such… because no politics. a lot older crowd though but a lot less massive insecurity and injection of identity insecurity into everything. turns out the really cool people are the boring uncool ones.
insecurity about being ‘authentic’
This insecurity about being authentic has pervaded so many things, even absent any real political context. LIke people will suddenly whip out “You know, nachos aren’t really authentic Mexican food, they’re Tex-Mex cuisine.” Okay, what do you expect me to do in that situation, spit it out and go “Ugh, that’s disgusting!” Authentic or not, they’re still delicious. I totally get pursuing authenticity when you’re trying to preserve a culture and are worried it’s under threat, but it gets brought into absolutely ridiculous contents, often by people who have no real basis or authority to be the arbiters of authenticity for what they’re discussing in the first place as a way to try and make themselves seem more worldly.
What. Have you ever been to Texas? Queso is tex-mex. Nachos are something else. Queso is better.
Alloys are intrinsically liberal. Keep metals pure!
Sonic the Hedgehog for me. I love the franchise, but I stay clear of the fandom. So many weird people latch onto Sonic stuff and make it all icky and creepy. I guess that’s what happens when a company like SEGA claims “Everything is canon.”
Also perverts. I was absolutely obsessed with Sonic Archie comics and finding forums as a kid was how I learned about furry porn. Scarred and older, a decade later, saw how cool Sonic Mania was and wanted to interact with others. And there it was again… Pervert shit.
I’ve been mostly obsessed with the comics as well. I built a website just to track all the comics and arrange their covers in proper reading order.
It’s out of date right now (I’m currently working to get it updated, actually), but all the Archie Sonic comics are listed in order. You can check it out here.
Hey this is really cool! It has like a nice retro website vibe!
People like you make the internet awesome!
I at least like that a few pieces of Sonic media lampshade this.
In one episode of Sonic Boom (a show designed to be watched high by adults) he’s kidnapped by an aardvark that’s a rabid fan.
“Oh! N-no, I wasn’t trying to escape, I was just…reading some of this fanfiction! Ooh. Sonamy, spicy!”
“Oh. Yeah, I don’t really even care for it, but it seems requisite for the readers.”This is kinda funny for me because “Sega” is an Italian slang to say “masturbation” which seems rather fitting to the fandom
https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/sega
Amazing. I will never see it the same.
Truly the most elegant language ✨
Or liking things that doesn’t have a big fan base works too. For instance, a lot of novels.
Meanwhile, when novels do have a relatively large fanbase, boy, better stay away from them
That is such a ravenclaw thing to say.
Brb, writing GRRM a letter asking him to finish writing my slop before he dies.
First two books of ASoI&F were pretty good, I thought. Then the rest were just him writing himself in circles, ever more slowly. Then the TV adaptation came out, to initially great acclaim, and then ended with a damp fart.
Yes, there were more problems with the end of the show than just his plot, or lack of it, but I can’t see that the ending will be redeemed without substantial changes, and his skills as a writer don’t really extend to “writing towards the desired ending”.
I think if we do ever get a conclusion to the book series, it will be written by someone else; I believe he’s left instructions to destroy all his notes and work-in-progress when he dies?
I believe he’s left instructions to destroy all his notes and work-in-progress when he dies?
Do you trust it to be more profitable to follow those instructions or to disobey them?
Even if you interact with the fandom, you are certainly not doing it in public, be it on forum, Reddit, Lemmy or Discord, you will encour the risk of gettin flashed with either some strange images or see other things you don’t wanna see and this get worse the bigger the fandom get
It was so weird to study in STEM and meet other Star Trek fans in the cantina. Now there is something wrong with Wesley Crusher and I’m supposed to hate him and project that on the child actor, too? And when Jeri Ryan is nice enough to come all the way to a European convention, they yell “strip”? (At least they were disgusted as well about the latter, just reported others doing it.)
No thanks, I’ll hang out with decent people.
I have no idea what you’re talking about, but that’s probably a good thing for me.
My exception to this rule is Pokémon ROM hacks, relatively small fan base though which helps
Pokémon fans make the best Pokémon games and it’s not even close
I have found another.
Did you try Phoenix Red 2.0 yet? I’m also excited for the 2 demakes of Alola that are upcoming.
Most ‘nerd’ stuff. Comic book movie discussion has gone to shit because people have become weird about it. When it’s not manosphere bullshit, it’s people expecting Endgame level quality and stakes for every single movie now, who would’ve shat on Iron Man if it came out today, and who need to be reminded of the absolute horse shit that we used to get. They’re starting to rival the Star Wars fans in terms of being insufferable.
Outside of the cosy games spaces that I’ve been hanging around, all I ever hear from Gamers™ is some controversy about a female character being a game. Or gasp a black character. They’re happy with the main protagonist being a woman if the jiggle psychics are set to max though.
And online at least, the alternative scene has gone to shit. People from the anti jock subcultures started listening to jocks with microphones on podcasts. People who grew up listening to Jonathan Davis singing about being called a “faget”, went on to become people who call others “betas”. Metal went from representing rebellion to representing people who go “stop making it political”.
And so many ‘punks’ seem to have become Joe Rogan fans too. I’ve even had to argue with people calling me a “woke lefty” in fan spaces for The Clash. We all laughed when Joe Rogan said “conservative is the new punk” but it’s an even bigger joke because half the people that took his word for it were punks.
not interacting with people in general:
Every few years I find a kpop act I like but holy shit, the fanbase is fucking horrible. I’d rather try getting into League again before I’d interact with those creatures.
I don’t understand what a fanbase is. Probably why I just enjoy stuff and don’t really care about who else likes it though.
In the long long ago, in the before time, when a new manga, or anime became popular it wasn’t long before the fanbase formed. These weren’t your fanbases of today, these were communities to soak up everything there was to their favorite sgow. There was competition and cringe yes, but it had honor, there were boundaries. It was like this for decades.
Then Rick showed us how much he loves Szechuan Sauce and McDonald’s thought Rick and Morty was any other fanbase. They were wrong. Now a fanbase is just another segment of the population which can be marketed to and have wealth extracted. Another thing that can be packaged up into a product or video to maximize how much of your money or attention they get.
We’re Rick and Morty or McDonald’s to blame? No, they were only doing what everyone had been doing for decades. No, the world is different. The shows are different. The whole business is different. We the fans are different. We have to take our favorite thing as far as it will go to get as much as we can, boundaries be damned.
Now I follow the same path you do I…
…don’t really care who else likes it though.
That really did seem like a major cultural turning point, and I was watching it from the outside.
